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People like to drive, make a car that does not require gas. Busses and transit are a thing of the past
Thanks Ryan!
I think thats a good point – what I wonder is, in 25 years, will it be an asset to the Region then ? Time will tell.
Having read everything there is to read about the plans for rapid transit in this region, I am truly sorry to say that I am strongly opposed. Please note that this is DESPITE the fact that UNTIL I moved to this region I always used public transit, but here I haven’t used it once. I am one of the greenest people I know – I believe that cars are the scourge of the earth – but this region is unfortunately NOT the place for such an initiative. I’m thinking back to last summer when gas was over $1.40, and my workplace of about 250 people still ran out of parking spaces in its lot. So much so that they had to rent another 100 spots from the University of Waterloo.
Here in KW, I ride my bicycle or I walk; I’m no athlete but I like the health and cost benefits – I’m 49 years old and my 6.5 km bike route to work takes me 25 minutes (from Victoria Park to the Techno-Park). I’ve lived in Montreal, Paris, Geneva; I’ve travelled to London, Amsterdam, Sao Paolo, and in ALL of those cities I was able to get around very nicely on public transit. The routes and schedules were easy to understand. Yet after moving here in 2007, I’ve studied the region’s transit system and I simply can’t understand the routes (why is there a 7A, 7B, … 7F???). The iXpress route is clear, but I still have no desire to use it because the 15 minute walk (or bus along Victoria + transfer) to the Charles Street terminal means that it’s no faster for me. Moreover, I’m even more inclined to boycott the iXpress in the hope that my helping to keep the usage low will kill the plan for light rail sooner rather than later.
Why not just continue on with a few more solid, UNDERSTANDABLE bus routes instead of spending all that money? Even if the iXpress gained ridership, they could simply add more busses rather than make such a drastic change in infrstructure. Frankly – once every 15 minutes at rush hour is laughable for THE main bus route in the region, and just adds further proof that the system here doesn’t work – and won’t work, no matter what they do, even if traffic worsens and gas prices rise. If money absolutely has to be spent on rail, I’m all for spending some on a high-speed connection from KW to (1) Pearson Airport; and then on to (2) Union Station, Toronto.
Also – the proposed light rail will cut through the region in what is basically a straight line along a business – not residential – corridor. How are people going to get to that line? It is not going to do anything at all for the majority of residents, as very few of us live within a couple of blocks of King Street.
Finally: isn’t the City of Kitchener spending millions on construction on King Street this summer to make it more pedestrian-friendly? Cars are bad enough – now we pedestrians and bikers are going to have to worry about getting hit by (almost noiseless) trains as well? This is in addition to the danger to bikers caused by the rail tracks themselves, should a wheel get caught. And if they absolutely must build a light rail line, why not build it on one of the (many) uglier streets in this region, such as Weber?
I am also stongly opposed to the rail system in the regioal plans for the following reasons:
1) The old trolly-rail service was taken out for several very good reasons
Everyone I noticed seemed very pleased with the Hybrid Bus for energy conservation, cleaner emissions, reliability and cost.
2) The hydro consumption program will not be in effect properly if this type of transportation returns
3) If there is a power outage during this opperation of electric powered transportation it will be useless
4) This new plan is very expensive
5) It will take up permanent road-space which can’t be changed without another massive cost
6) Some Bus Drivers may be out of a job driving
7) The rail on the streets will make it treacherous for cyclists, seniors with walkers, disabled with scooters, and regular scooters as well. People have died from getting small tires caught in railtracks.
What happened to the Hybrid as our Regions answer to reliable and affordable transportation?
The CNR and CPR are always struggling with problems and so are all the Subway systems in the Toronto area.
I am also stongly opposed to the rail system in the regioal plans for the following reasons:
1) The old trolly-rail service was taken out for several very good reasons
Everyone I noticed seemed very pleased with the Hybrid Bus for energy conservation, cleaner emissions, reliability and cost.
2) The hydro consumption program will not be in effect properly if this type of transportation returns
3) If there is a power outage during this opperation of electric powered transportation it will be useless
4) This new plan is very expensive
5) It will take up permanent road-space which can’t be changed without another massive cost
6) Some Bus Drivers may be out of a job driving
7) The rail on the streets will make it treacherous for seniors with walkers, disabled with scooters, and regular scooters as well. People have died from railtrack related accidents.
What happened to the Hybrid as our Regions answer to reliable and affordable transportation?
The CNR and CPR are always struggling with problems and so are all the Subway systems in the Toronto area.
I am also stongly opposed to the rail system in the regioal plans for the following reasons:
1) The old trolly-rail service was taken out for several very good reasons
2) The hydro consumption program will not be in effect properly if this type of transportation returns
3) If there is a power outage during this opperation of electric powered transportation it will be useless
4) It will take up permanent road-space which can’t be changed without another massive cost
Everyone I noticed seemed very pleased with the Hybrid Bus for energy conservation, cleaner emissions, reliability and cost.
5) Some Bus Drivers may be out of a job driving
6) The rail on the streets will make it treacherous for seniors with walkers, disabled with scooters, and regular scooters as well. People have died from railtrack related accidents.
What happened to the Hybrid as our Regions answer to reliable and affordable transportation?
The CNR and CPR are always struggling with problems and so are all the Subway systems in the Toronto area.
I am also stongly opposed to the rail system in the regioal plans for the following reasons:
1) The old trolly-rail service was taken out for several very good reasons
2) The hydro consumption program will not be in effect properly if this type of transportation returns
3) If there is a power outage during this opperation of electric powered transportation it will be useless
4) It will take up permanent road-space which can’t be changed without another massive cost
5) Some Bus Drivers may be out of a job driving
6) The rail on the streets will make it treacherous for seniors with walkers, disabled with scooters, and regular scooters as well. People have died from railtrack related accidents.
7) Everyone I noticed seemed very pleased with the Hybrid Bus for energy conservation, cleaner emissions, reliability and cost.
8)The CNR and CPR are always struggling with problems and so are all the Subway systems in the Toronto area.
The LRT system will be a termendous assest to Kitchener- Waterloo, and ultimately it will expand to Cambridge too. We are probably in the last generation where the average person will be able to afford to drive everywhere. Within 30 years, petroleum will be so expensive only the well-off will be able to afford it. It’s going to be a shock around the world, but especially to those cities and regions that haven’t already built a robust transit infrastructure.
This is not a time to be timid. The CPR, the Panama Canal, the St. Lawrence Seaway, the Paris-Lyon TGV, the Chunnel: these would never have been built by those who wanted a guarenteed return before they made an investment.
Comments from twitter this morning
@DarrenShaw -
7:43am, Jan 08 from TwitterBerry :
Its about time its explored properly. Leaving an unwilling participent in Cambridge out of the mix is a good idea.
@GreenSpotting
7:46am, Jan 08 from TweetDeck
Looking at amalgamation of K/W – REALLY muddy, what then is a ‘Region”? if a go, let Camb OUT of region plz. I think good for KW, real BAD for Camb. Camb should disconnect, look to leading South , more organic ties. although I find it ironic as region splits , Conestoga college building across 401, only college where “highway runs thru it”
@paulstickney
9:17am, Jan 08
No Waterloo Region w/o Cambridge
More comments from twitter:
@ccarmichael 9:19am, Jan 08
IMO, the “two-city” model is the only workable amalgamation scenario. K-W+the northern twps & Cambridge+North Dumfries
@jrodgers 9:21am, Jan 08
I think Cambridge is a minefield given how people are nuts for Galt/Preston/etc identities but they should be included
@paulstickney 9:22am, Jan 08
All municipalities make up the identity and strength of Waterloo Region. You don’t force drastic change w/o all family support
@DarrenShaw 9:28am, Jan 08 I believe for business…”bigger will is better”. No offence Kitchener but Waterloo is the brand to sell world wide.
@mikepgww 10:12am, Jan 08 @GreenSpotting @benjaminbach region includes townships as well…not to mention garbage, police and transit…Cambridge does not want out…
GreenSpotting .@mikepgww @benjaminbach look at how well the tourism board “amalgamation” works out for Cambridge. no local biz support at all
GreenSpotting RT @mikepgww: @benjaminbach region makes sense…mega city does not -agreed BUT new imbalance be deadly, hard now to even get represntation
mikepgww @GreenSpotting @benjaminbach Cambridge would not want out of rgn to set up services themselves…region makes sense…mega city does not
ENBdavies @mikepgww @benjaminbach @DarrenShaw • gd old fashioned infrastructure borders & xenophobias as regionalisms fear the unknown blue collars •
ENBdavies @DarrenShaw @benjaminbach part of the reason ths region out performs much of Canada is a vry Strong Smalls business & entrepreneur segment
GreenSpotting RT @mikepgww:@benjaminbach …Cambridge does not want out…- here’s problem, KW amalgs, cambridge WILL want out. (not preferred, fact)
mikepgww @benjaminbach @DarrenShaw Cambridge people go to kw all the time…when do kw people come to Cambridge? Not that often.
mikepgww @benjaminbach @DarrenShaw kw has been one city livving a dual life 4 some time. Cambridge has never been part (or welcome) in the chat.
As I was quoted saying above, I think the only workable solution is the “two-city” model that was first proposed in the report that was part of the process that led to the eventual creation of the Region of Waterloo in 1973.
In the two-city model, the Region is divided into two single-tier municipalities. The northern city would be comprised of Kitchener, Waterloo, Wilmot Twp, Wellesley Twp, and Woolwich Twp. The southern city would be comprised of Cambridge and North Dumfries Twp.
As single-tier municipalities (mini mega-cities) each would be responsible for their own services: fire, police, water, waste, etc. Certainly not a straightforward process to determine who does what, but not impossible either.
To me, this is the only fair way to recognize the North’s desire to merge amongst themselves and the South’s desire to be left alone.
@KRCraft 10:31pm, Jan 09
I’m firmly on the ‘Yes’ side and even moreso after further education from our Mktg Mgr: Amalgamation is good for business.
Overheard yesterday in amalgamation discussion, “Kitchener doesn’t let cats roam free, so I vote NO.” Alrighty then… ;->
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That’s good news and a wonderful way to start a new year.
On facebook, Scott Harris says:
I agree with him in many ways. IMO, Cambridge is a very divided community that can never seem to get it together to agree on anything… they still haven’t come to terms with their own ‘amalgamation’. Funny how he mentioned Avenue/St.Clair (where Megan and I used to live)
What a shame. Hope it doesn’t die on the table.
While I am not so sure an amalgamation of KW was good for Cambridge, it would have put us on our toes. We are going to miss out on the glorious discussions and debates re:
1. where does Cambridge fit within this region?
2. How could Cambridge leverage it’s interests against the almighty (really married) (instead of the currently “just dating”) KW neighbour?
3. would the oft-talked about option of a “two-city” structure work for the region (ie. KW & Cambridge as the two primary nodes)
4. In case of emergencies, which city has the rights to the bat-signal?
So if we are all going to put our feet up on the ottoman and grab a beer, might as well watch the game play on a bit more. I’m afraid that the winner, however, will find that the cup has been snatched and found it’s way to some other region already.
Well, there’s always a next season.
Why does this all remind of “Grumpy Old Men”.
Ben,
It was a great spirited debate at council last night. I think it is a bit off to suggest that they didn’t let the voters decide. Over the past 2 weeks they have been inundated with e-mails from residents on the issue of amalgamation.
All councilors identified that their residents were not in favor of an amalgamation question by large margins. Councilors took a smart approach; they listened to concerns of their voters and acted accordingly.
It’s worth noting that there were a handful of pro amalgamation discussion delegates before council last night, compared to a large contingency of anti merger delegates. Representation by population is a good gage of what it important, and not so much.
At any rate, Councilor Jan d’Ailly offered a very fair solution. Setup a Mayor Taskforce to seek feedback on the issue and weigh the pros and cons. The discussion has not ended.
Cheers!
Paul